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29/05/2016 20:06:16

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
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Here is a one-stop look at what some of the other players in the animation business charge:
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AUTODESK MAYA: http://www.autodesk.com/products/maya-lt/subscribe

GO ANIMATE: https://goanimate.com/business/videoplans/?hook=header_button.site

ANIME STUDIO: http://my.smithmicro.com/anime-studio-pro.html

POSER: http://my.smithmicro.com/poser-pro-11.html

iCLONE: http://www.reallusion.com/store/product.html?l=1&p=ic
(note that the ability to create characters, import your own models and many more features all require separate purchases above and beyond the initial price)

CRAZY TALK ANIMATOR: http://www.reallusion.com/store/product.html?l=1&p=cta

TOON BOOM STUDIO (now called HARMONY): https://www.toonboom.com/products/harmony/pricing

ADOBE FLASH/ANIMATE: https://creative.adobe.com/plans?single_app=animate&promoid=VG52KMQJ&mv=other


MUVIZU: you already know it is the most affordable animation software available!
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29/05/2016 20:08:08

MrDrWho13Muvizu mogulExperimental user
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Cough Source filmmaker Cough
But yes, Muvizu is certainly one of the very few low cost pieces of animation software.
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30/05/2016 00:03:05

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
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MrDrWho13 wrote:
Cough Source filmmaker Cough
But yes, Muvizu is certainly one of the very few low cost pieces of animation software.


hey that looks powerful! Do you use it?
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30/05/2016 07:06:45

MrDrWho13Muvizu mogulExperimental user
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PatMarrNC wrote:
MrDrWho13 wrote:
Cough Source filmmaker Cough
But yes, Muvizu is certainly one of the very few low cost pieces of animation software.


hey that looks powerful! Do you use it?


I've played around with it a couple of times but I prefer Muvizu. You can have a look on YouTube for some films made with it, I believe there are thousands.
edited by MrDrWho13 on 30/05/2016
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30/05/2016 07:12:21

ukBertyMuvizu mogulExperimental user
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PatMarrNC wrote:
hey that looks powerful! Do you use it?


I had a really good look at this a couple of years ago when Muvizu was "resting" and I concluded that it has tremendous potential, but would mean that instead of 5-6 years to make my film would probably take the rest of my life. Having complete control over your characters movements is great, but choice=time. Sometimes restrictions are good.

Also when you see what people are creating there's some great animation, but not sure whether you can have different characters or even sets. After a quick Google the set issue may have been cracked by now, but the characters are almost always the same and at the time that was that.

Also most of the output is a bit "shooty" for what I was trying to achieve.

It's the one to watch though - the output is far superior to the standard "uncanny valley" output of iClone (IMHO - calm down iCloners ).
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30/05/2016 07:22:03

MrDrWho13Muvizu mogulExperimental user
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ukBerty wrote:
I had a really good look at this a couple of years ago when Muvizu was "resting"


That's one way to put it, I suppose
edited by MrDrWho13 on 30/05/2016
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30/05/2016 14:06:52

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
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Sometimes restrictions are good.


I agree completely! It isn't hard for me to get bogged down in option paralysis and learning curves.
Part of what I love about Muvizu is :

1) it provides a logical and reasonably consistent way of doing things, which is pretty easy to grasp and use

2) it is highly modifiable, but not to the extent that it introduces major complexity to the learning curve

3) in areas where Muvizu lacks power, there are other tools available to fill in the blanks. Hit Film, for example... and other animation products that can be animated at whatever degree of precision you might need (as long as you film that scene without moving the camera)

In my opinion one of the determinants of a well-designed product is an abundance of completed projects by its users. Products that aren't easy to use tend to have forums that host little more than demo projects of a few minutes, because it's too much hassle to do more than that.

One of the first things that caught my eye here is the large number of full-blown video stories that are excellent! When you don't have to spend as much time making the visual details happen, you can think at a higher level and create better stories.

"Directing", as opposed to "animating"
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09/08/2016 18:10:36

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
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Smith Micro/Anime Studio/Moho announced their latest upgrade opportunity today. I mention it here for purposes of comparison.

They want $199 USD to upgrade from last years version! ($399 for full purchase) This upgrade adds minimal new content and features.

If I bought everything that Muvizu added to the store this year, it would add up to far less than $199 USD, and I'm guessing it would be more useful stuff.

I find Muvizu far easier to use, and I have to wonder why they have priced it so low in comparison to similar products. I would guess that its because they want to make entry affordable, then use store sales to generate income in a steady ongoing stream. But if that's the plan, I'd expect to see new products being introduced all the time.

to Muvizu decision-makers: You are sitting on a cash cow here... all you need is to put items in the store that people want at prices that justify your development costs and money will start to flow. With a clear demand for quadrapeds and no demand for VR, I don't understand the decision to devote resources in a direction where the demand is small while neglecting development for ideas that have strong user appeal.
edited by PatMarrNC on 09/08/2016
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09/08/2016 18:51:54

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
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What He Said
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09/08/2016 19:30:35

gimmick
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Here is a one-stop look at what some of the other players in the animation business charge:


There is Moviestorm which is interesting (but not perfect) for animations. It's a bit like old machinima "The Movies". Cool
edited by gimmick on 09/08/2016
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09/08/2016 23:16:06

Rocque
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PatMarrNC wrote:
Smith Micro/Anime Studio/Moho announced their latest upgrade opportunity today. I mention it here for purposes of comparison.

They want $199 USD to upgrade from last years version! ($399 for full purchase) This upgrade adds minimal new content and features.


Does that mean you would have to pay $399 for it if you are not upgrading?
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11/08/2016 05:18:06

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
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Rocque wrote:
PatMarrNC wrote:
Smith Micro/Anime Studio/Moho announced their latest upgrade opportunity today. I mention it here for purposes of comparison.

They want $199 USD to upgrade from last years version! ($399 for full purchase) This upgrade adds minimal new content and features.


Does that mean you would have to pay $399 for it if you are not upgrading?


that's my understanding. Yes. I think that's wayy too much for an upgrade. So I guess this is where I draw the line with Smith Micro. There are thousands of their users who would update faithfully for years at $99 per year. Many of them will drop out at this price, and they'll actually make less money than they made at $99
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