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23/12/2016 23:55:25

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
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Rocque wrote:
Based on what I have read so far, I am going to wait a year to buy Poser. I do not have the qualifications to attempt to learn it. I still have to get better with Muvizu. I am going to try using Free stuff for now.

I am putting a new roof on my house so that is taking up my have fun money for a while. I will let you all get better with Poser then next year you can help me if I feel I have time to use it.


ooooo, very shrewd plan there Rocque! Cleverrrrr..... ;-)
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24/12/2016 01:23:30

theotherguy
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Having (finally) installed all the features and gone through the manual and a couple of animation tutorials, I think it's safe to say that Poser was never intended to be an animation program, it's a functionality that was added on. If you read the forward by the guy who invented it, he just wanted something to mimic the wooden pose dolls that artists use, thus Poser. I remember using it in an art class I took in '97 to generate a figure falling through space, it wasn't easy but it got the job done.

I think Poser will be good for generating additional characters, like their cartoon ones, as 'extras' in bigger scenes. I like the animals too. However it's not something that is critical to tell stories, waiting a year wouldn't hurt although I don't see them doing much with the animation, making more realistic characters seems to be what they are all about - like Daz 3-D - but we'll see.
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24/12/2016 04:18:55

Rocque
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It will be interesting to see what everyone here is able to do with programs like Poser in the coming year. I like Pat's idea of having a sort of showcase more than a contest of how it is being used in Muvizu along with film editors. I thought the wolf that Pat used was very unique and it stood out as such in his Halloween video.
I appreciate your comments, theotherguy, too.

Thank you for installing all the features and going through the manual, and reporting your findings. I just do not have that sort of time write now. I am looking at DAZ Studio, too, and it is free. I went through the first tutorial, but have no clue how I would use it in Muvizu. However I am new to all of this, and really happy to have so many new things such as Poser, and Daz to look forward to learning.

There are excellent animations being created without all the extra software programs. Muvizu is something that you can grow with especially if those in charge keep adding ways that make adding props or "background characters" made outside the studio into the studio possible. Pat once mentioned it is the story that carries the animation. However, it seems that most of us want to find out how to enhance the story with the right tools to create better scenes.

I am not sure if I am making sense, but I know that I wanted to make a Christmas video, and spent days looking for the right music that I could use without copyright infringement, and more days looking for background scenes, (that so far I am unable to get to work right, or to duplicate in another program).
I do not want to short change the story. That is why I thought learning how to use outside sources to create what I want might be the way to go. Learning how to use Poser, or something similar might help with this or future animations. I do not see any harm in learning them when time permits.

So Pat, I really do not feel so clever at much as I feel a victim of circumstances, and that being I need to replace my roof.
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11/01/2017 02:44:37

Chas60
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I have Poser 11. I think it is nice, but for my money, I feel Muvizu is a lot simpler to use. Poser 11 is a good investment, but it is up to to the individual whether they wish to spend time learning a new program. I just wish Poser people were able to answer questions. Maybe someone here can help.

I learned how to lip sync once character, however, there are scenes where I have two or more characters. I would appreciate anyone explaining to me how to upload my dialog files so that I can have more than one person speaking in project.
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11/01/2017 13:07:04

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
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Chas60 wrote:
I have Poser 11. I think it is nice, but for my money, I feel Muvizu is a lot simpler to use.

no doubt about it, Muvizu beats Poser in just about every area except flexibility. Those of us who use Poser at all use it as a "tool in the toolbox" to solve the occasional problem that Muvizu can't handle. But I would never EVER embrace Poser as my main animation solution!

Poser 11 is a good investment, but it is up to to the individual whether they wish to spend time learning a new program. I just wish Poser people were able to answer questions. Maybe someone here can help.

if you have Poser questions, ask away... but I think it would make more sense to ask poser questions on the poser forum.

I learned how to lip sync once character, however, there are scenes where I have two or more characters. I would appreciate anyone explaining to me how to upload my dialog files so that I can have more than one person speaking in project.


I assume this question pertains to Muvizu, not Poser. This question has come up several times lately, so I might make a tutorial on how to use Audacity to create dialog for Muvizu. Stay tuned. I'll post it in this thread when it's finished.
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11/01/2017 15:41:52

theotherguy
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The Muvizu lip sync feature is great in that it works, but some of the more complex characters mouths don't move very much. I'm trying an experiment where I enunciate in an exaggerated fashion, loudly. Once I (hopefully) get the character to open up a bit, I'll use my non-exaggerated audio track in it's place, as I assemble the final work in my video editor.

I used to have a hard time getting two or more characters talking, but I found if you just carefully follow the whole procedure and test the characters once you're done, it seems fine. Maybe an update has fixed what used to be hit-and-miss?
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11/01/2017 19:23:32

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
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I learned how to lip sync once character, however, there are scenes where I have two or more characters. I would appreciate anyone explaining to me how to upload my dialog files so that I can have more than one person speaking in project.


This question has come up several times lately, so I might make a tutorial on how to use Audacity to create dialog for Muvizu. Stay tuned. I'll post it in this thread when it's finished.

as promised, here's a link to a tutorial:
http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=6149&MessageID=34905#post34905
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11/01/2017 20:10:03

Chas60
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I was presenting the question about Poser not Muvizu. I know how to get two or more characters to talk. I was hoping someone here knew more about Poser. Yes, it makes more sense to present to them this question, but I found it useless. No one there (even techs) can answer my question. I guess it is just trial and error. Anyway. I enjoy your videos and look forward to seeing more Muvizu videos from you.
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11/01/2017 23:08:42

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
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there isn't a lot of info out there on the topic... here's something, but not much:
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12/01/2017 03:18:53

Chas60
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Thank you for your help. The video helped. I love your Muvizu videos. The one that really caught my eye was the one you made for Halloween. I love the Frankenstein Monster and Wolfman. I hope you don't mind me using them in a future horror video. To me, you have become my Muvizu Guru. I know I will never be as good as you, but your videos gives me something to shoot for.

Thank you once again for your help.

Sincerely,

Chas60
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12/01/2017 03:59:30

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
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gee, thanks for the kind words, Chas... I really do appreciate the encouragement! You are more than welcome to use or abuse or refactor or modify or make derivative works of anything I put in the store. I love to see videos that have items I made in them!

But you might want to set your sights a lot higher than my skillset... there are some really amazing creators here, and I'm not one of them. Watch all the videos in the gallery and you'll see some nice work!
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14/02/2017 19:14:37

Speedking5
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Rocque a really cool free alternative program I found for poser like animation Is Miku Miku Move. I just found out about it a few weeks ago. I was under the impression that it was just a dance maker program so I never really gave it a shot. This is a spin off of that program that offers which is imo better for animators.There's hundreds of poses and walk motions available on Deviantart . Easy way to get in to it too just like Muvizu . It also has really cool stuff like A physics engine and and Morph controls . Of course some downsides are having to use third party programs for voice control and there's just some things like facial actions that are easier to do in Muvizu.
Miku Miku Program

https://sites.google.com/site/mikumikumoving/

Some cool characters I found
http://yikesdepartment.deviantart.com/art/MMD-The-children-of-Lazytown-Model-Pack-DL-657189630

Stage to get you started
http://www.deviantart.com/art/MMD-Stage-39-486084016
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